Richard Oliver

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  Honest Questions About Child Abuse

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have two honest questions for everyone here.

  i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.

  but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.

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  Richard Oliver

  Scratches. First the first post that u posted was the complaint. A lawyer can make any accusation that they want. Second what I posted is from the courts either written opinion on appeal or the judges decision on a motion for summary judgment. If u don't believe me look it up.
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  Honest Questions About Child Abuse

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have two honest questions for everyone here.

  i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.

  but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.

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  Richard Oliver

  First of all by definition a legal case can only be won or loss in a court case. I never said it was right. I present actual facts. Like court after Court judges have ruled that watchtower does not have a fiduciary duty to publishers, the duty to protect or warn. Everyone here can argue if those things are either correct or should be over turned but that doesn't negate that those are the facts atleast in the US. It is part of American law that a person doesn't have to protect a third party if they have no legal duty to do so. Again I in no way says that is right or wrong. But that is facts of the law
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  Honest Questions About Child Abuse

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have two honest questions for everyone here.

  i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.

  but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.

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  Richard Oliver

  Yes I have read the ARC report. And when I do research I go on westlaw or lexisnexis and search watchtower and read every case that, that word comes up. And btw facts are not biased. Facts are facts.
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  watchtower lapel pins

  by wannaexit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been noticing lots of these pins on lapels.

  i could almost understand the jwdotorg pin because the new mantra is to go to the website.

  but why on earth are they sporting a building?

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  Richard Oliver

  All I presented was actual facts not conjecture or speculation.
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  Honest Questions About Child Abuse

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have two honest questions for everyone here.

  i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.

  but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.

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  Richard Oliver

  Yes outlaw how dare I show an analogy with the use of another complex situation. Oh wait you can't think of complex situations because your brain can't comprehend those types. Everything is one cause and therefore one solution.
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  Honest Questions About Child Abuse

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have two honest questions for everyone here.

  i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.

  but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.

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  Richard Oliver

  Just because you recognize a matter, no matter how bad it is, is a complex issue that will require a complex solution doesn't mean you are trying to distract from something. There is a huge issue with people overdosing on opioids, with many contributing factors. Just because people try and attack an issue from many different sides doesn't mean that they are distracting from from other causes.
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  watchtower lapel pins

  by wannaexit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been noticing lots of these pins on lapels.

  i could almost understand the jwdotorg pin because the new mantra is to go to the website.

  but why on earth are they sporting a building?

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  Richard Oliver

  I said no corporation associated with watchtower meaning that watchtower is not making money off of these items. I made that point because people on this thread immediately said it was a way for watchtower to make more money. I said what I said to highlight watchtower does not make money off of them.
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  watchtower lapel pins

  by wannaexit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been noticing lots of these pins on lapels.

  i could almost understand the jwdotorg pin because the new mantra is to go to the website.

  but why on earth are they sporting a building?

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  Richard Oliver

  I do apologize. Appartently color is not part of the trademark. The trademark that is specific to jw.org is

  Indication of Colors claimed

  Color is not claimed as a feature of the mark.

  Description of Mark

  The mark consists of the stylized letters "JW.ORG" within a square design, where the characters "JW." appear above the "ORG".

  
  

  
  
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  watchtower lapel pins

  by wannaexit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been noticing lots of these pins on lapels.

  i could almost understand the jwdotorg pin because the new mantra is to go to the website.

  but why on earth are they sporting a building?

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  Richard Oliver

  Watchtower can voice their displeasure of people making. Which they have, they have repeatedly informed witnesses not to make or wear these items with either the watchtower logo or the jw.org logo. But that is all that they can do is to get people to stop using it. As long as they aren't breaking trademark law there is nothing that can be done from a legal standpoint.
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  watchtower lapel pins

  by wannaexit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been noticing lots of these pins on lapels.

  i could almost understand the jwdotorg pin because the new mantra is to go to the website.

  but why on earth are they sporting a building?

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  Richard Oliver

  No corporation associated with Watchtower makes these. Though it is impossible for Watchtower to stop it because of how the technical trademark is displayed with the trademark office. The trademark is a Square background in a very specific color of blue for it to be in a violation of a trademark. And SCOTUS ruled in Moseley v V Catalouge Inc. that a trademark violation is only valid if the two trademarks are so similar that a reasonable person would not be able to differentiate between the two items.